Are You Telling Your Partner?

You're very critical of the benefits system, universal credit. Do you think it keeps people poor? It stifles aspiration and ruins children's outcomes. I saw a family when I was working for Gloria who had five children - they never worked. They were getting 53,000 pounds a year net but to get that sort of wage now is over 70k. And we're not breaking the poverty cycle. It's cruel because we're ruining people's lives. Are you telling your partner? Yes, of course I am. Of course I'm listening to me.