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Ukraine and the world order
These Times
The Disadvantages of Russia and China
A few years later that same pipeline has been blown up by somebody we still don't know who. I was speaking to somebody today who was saying the Americans were still trying actually to drive a wedge between Russia and China as recently as 2021 Biden met Putin in Geneva and was trying to pull them apart a bit but just really hasn't been successful at all. We're going to come back to this obviously one of the reasons why this is so difficult is that these aren't just powers that want a more multipolar world because they are what we might think of as revisionist powers for territorial changes.
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