The Relationship Between Church and Parachurch

I think that's misleading but when we talk about having a knowledge of God's word and the skill of using God's word in the process of challenging people to change and grow those are two very key components. It does take us back to the question of the church parachurch that's a dicey question because the idea that an outside entity that is outside the local church can can be an entity that decides that someone inside your church is qualified to count very very challenging. I've talked about this for years and years what is the relationship there's a there's a tension there's a sort of sometimes there can be like a hand and glove with help theological seminaries by and large except you know