If you're not producing something then there's nothing for you to kind of review or ideally to have a parent or a teacher kind of comment on. So basically it's kind of you need to produce almost like an athlete basically you need to kind of do the things in order to generate feedback about how you can improve it so once we're kind of talking now about you becoming a more advanced writer and basically it may also depend a little bit on on how what kind of genre of writing you're doing. It makes a lot of sense it's injury since you run up authors now um it's something curiosity rose with me which is in that  if i'm working on a book i'll

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