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Dr. Gavin Ortlund Unpacks Problematic Roman Catholic Dogmas
The Becket Cook Show
The Development of Praying for the Dead and the Practice of Prayer to Mary
Praying for the dead is a development it's a slow gradual development early on. You don't find any examples of praying to poly carp or something like this after he's dead they honor him but there's nothing like prayers to poly carp similarly there's an early Christian I've already mentioned one's named origin who has a famous dispute with a pagan critic named Celsius and so they're dialoguing back and forth and origin seems this comes up in their dialogue. He seems to have no conception that we're praying to the saints you start to see little glimmers of it in that patristic era so early on, but it's very slow and piecemeal before it becomes a mainstream practice
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