Are We Born With a Mixed Bag?

I think my view is we're both fallen and image bearers, even the worst human being that ever lived for God's image. And so within that there's capacities for moral growth and development. So I think like the exemplar for us, of course, is Jesus. It's understanding how he lived, studying his life,. That's what imitation of Christ is. We need to bring psychologists in to maybe explain more of this to us.