"I didn't know that I would have had a talent for it kind of at the outset. But I thought this was really, really interesting and pulls together a lot of strands of things," he says. "As a practitioner, I am self-taught. I didn't come out of social science. I didn’t come out of design school." He adds: "It's a big mix of things that kind of started me off... And then just, yeah, years of experience and being now part of a community".

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