I think for chess fans it's very disappointing but I think in the overall like grand scheme of like the public view to people who don't really play chess. Most people know Casper over Magnus it takes the same ability and talent and that doesn't change. But there is you know so that's his perspective my perhaps narrow perspective is I romanticize the Olympic games and those are every four years because they're rare. The sample size is so small that's where the magic happens.

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