The Value of SD WAN

AJ: I'm going back to my days in the knock and it really would be nice to not have to hunt down every phone number of every tiny little like provider that, yeah, do business. It's also a lot of control that you're handing off 100% all. If the customer leverages their network as a differentiator, then this isn't a good fit. But if it's an organization that's just providing some sort of service or building widgets to get out the door and doesn't really care, they just they have to have a network, but they don't care what it is outside of that,. A big piece of this is to add on to security compliance.