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How to Operationalize Free, Fair and Alive
Sally Kohn: I'm resonating very much to the journey you've taken, albeit within the philanthropic structures. We need to go deeply to this ethnical ontological epistemological shift that's a huge mouthful and I'm afraid it's so abstract that it doesn't what do people do with it in their everyday lives? She says her pet theory is that the commons without maybe some of this intellectual apparatus gives a way of practice and experience for one to start to get into the right frame and worldview. "We have these challenges of how to move this out," she adds.