The numbers are really, really terrible for use of inseds, things like motrin and, I mean, prophin in the use of post-surgical conditions and pain in general. But estimates are just billions of dollars in cost from the complications of using inseds. There's other issues with that too, long-term organ damage. And like you were just saying, being concerned about what the baby's getting in the case of a mother who's nursing, so to be able to get somebody off of the, over the counters, like that, it doesn't sound like much to some people, but that is a big deal. That is so important. Yeah. It's great to be able to have an option like that. So if a patient's looking at doing this, they're hoping to be able to get some good relief. Tell us a little bit about how long does a treatment like this take, whether it's for abdominal or orthopedic, how long does the patient have to come in to be in the use of the office for? Is this something that insurance will cover? What's your experience with those

things? So I would say average treatment time, it would be about 15 minutes. And sometimes it could be six to eight minutes, sometimes it could be 10. It just really depends what areas we're taking care of. It depends on level of patient's discomfort and tolerance to laser as well. I would say in terms of insurance, most insurances do cover laser therapy to a certain degree. Medicare is one that is not covering or the second areas are not covering laser therapy, but patients, once they see the results from somebody else, they're more than they're willing to make the investment because they see the long term effects. You know, I even recently had a patient that came in and said, you know what, doc, I know I could have gone to my medical doctor with this and I would not have had to pay almost anything. He's like, but I know that he couldn't help me. And I know that you could have helped me with this. And indeed, you know, he came in with some leg pain and it was for treatments and he had full range of motion and felt great. So it was, you know, very cost effective in terms of what you're, what you're

getting. That's awesome. Very good. Well, I know you're there in Illinois. Why don't you give us your contact info, your website so that patients, if we got a patient near you that's listening to this right now, if they want to know how to find you, how can they get ahold of you? Sure.

We are in downtown Main Street in downtown Galena. We're on 310 North Main Street right next to the police station, which is a very good location to be in. And our website is lasergalena.com. Excellent. Excellent.

Lasergalena.com. Once again, this is Dr. Agnieshka Kluche. And really appreciate you joining us today. Hopefully, this has been enlightening for people who may feel like they are out of options with surgical pain or they're worried about upcoming surgeries and what might be going on. Definitely worth getting a look at some laser. Dr. Kluche, thanks again and we'll be talking again soon.

Yes, thank you very much for having

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