The Cheese Board

I think first time I went to Tokyo, it was just incredible. The only thing that was familiar was the kind of golden arches of McDonald's. We'd go out and have a couple of drinks and then it would start to feel like almost like you're on acid or something. It wasn't fine dining restaurants as we were traveling the world. But yeah, definitely kind of different countries with, there was totally eye opening. You've been together for 25 years, tell me about meeting Jules. Actually, it's our 10th wedding anniversary soon as well. Married for the married for 10.