The Integrative Relationship Between Our Thinking and Mathematics

Dawkins: Is there an intrinsic relationship that appears to be between our thinking and the realm of mathematics or intelligible reality independent of us, but intrinsically related? Dawkins: We can access the truths of mathematics with our consciousness. How we do that? No, I mean, but somehow we can access that world. Some people find it easier than others; this is a difficulty in trying to talk about these things.