In this episode, Jake Sullivan and Jon Finer cover:
- Who gained what after Trump’s meeting with Saudi Crown Prince MBS?
- How does the corruption scandal inside Zelensky’s government intersects with a new U.S. push for a Ukraine peace deal?
- Tabletop: the risks of re-orienting the national-security apparatus to immigration enforcement.
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Show notes and a transcript of the episode are available here.
References and Supplemental Readings:
- “Disrupting the first reported AI-orchestrated cyber espionage campaign” Anthropic Report, 11/13/25.
- “The Risky Movement to Make America Nuclear Again,” Michael Riley in Bloomberg News, 10/30/25.
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