I think that we, well, I guess my personal view is the burden of proof ought to be on someone to disprove that ordinary understood entities and concepts can explain what's going on. So with the alien abductions, I don't know who originated this explanation, but I've seen it many times that sleep paralysis combined with certain kinds of visual experiences could easily be interpreted in that way. But you people, especially neurologists would wake up after a dream and say, well, this means that whatever you would say about it, but certainly dreams are that strange. And when you're in them, they seem incredibly real and so on. The Alien Abductors has sort of been proven

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