Utopias Fail as Systems

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A good garden is a system that is in balance and requires minimal interactions by the gardener. The design of social systems requires not just the implementation of the desired functionality but the next level design also biological systems. You need to create a system that wants to converge to the intended function right so instead of just creating an institution like the FDA you need to make sure that the FDA is actually driven by a system that want to do this optimally.

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(00:00) – Introduction
(07:15) – Life is hard
(09:38) – Consciousness
(16:24) – What is life?
(26:33) – Free will
(40:38) – Simulation
(42:49) – Base layer of reality
(58:24) – Boston Dynamics
(1:06:43) – Engineering consciousness
(1:17:12) – Suffering
(1:26:06) – Postmodernism
(1:30:25) – Psychedelics
(1:43:40) – GPT-3
(1:52:22) – GPT-4
(1:58:47) – OpenAI Codex
(2:01:02) – Humans vs AI: Who is more dangerous?
(2:17:47) – Hitler
(2:22:44) – Autonomous weapon systems
(2:30:11) – Mark Zuckerberg
(2:35:47) – Love
(2:50:00) – Michael Malice and anarchism
(3:06:57) – Love
(3:11:05) – Advice for young people
(3:15:42) – Meaning of life