I think that certain decisions by public health officials during the pandemic have done a tremendous amount to erode people's faith in institutions as sources of truth. People notice when an organization lies to them and then they don't believe it anymore. You know, you see now a push by the right not only to downplay COVID, resist vaccines, but to repeal requirements of other types of vaccines. And I think that that's really short-sighted thinking. It's probably going to do lasting damage to people's faith and science generally in this country.

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