As a child, when we're young and impressionable, we have these people that we look up to. Ther are roll models, ther are teachers, there are parents,. sometimes there are peers and stuff like that. And so when i think about, man, cliff, you're fat, you'll always be fat, and all that other stuff, well, john, i i can tell you right now where some of those beliefs came from. It was the number of kids who called me 'fat' as a kid on the school playground. I would go home after a day of emotional beating, and i would go home and eat a big, huge, gigantic bag of deredos

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