I'm a Fan of You and What You Do

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John Perry: I'm so excited to chat with you. Obviously the book gets us into these escape fantasies of billionaires that people get really excited about and think are really interesting. But before we talk about some of that, I want to kind of step back and ask a broader question because I feel like the book in some ways is also a reflection on the experiences and work that you've done over the past number of years writing about these topics. He says it's less the story of my changing attitudes towards a thing that was happening, but the way the world shifted under his feet.

Paris Marx is joined by Douglas Rushkoff to discuss why internet visions of the 1990s were wrong to ignore corporate power, how the dot-com boom was like a Ponzi scheme, and why we desperately need to stop elevating tech billionaires.

Douglas Rushkoff is an author and documentarian who studies human autonomy in a digital age. His most recent book is Survival of the Richest: Escape Fantasies of the Tech Billionaires and he’s the host of Team Human podcast. You can follow him on Twitter at @rushkoff.

Tech Won’t Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Follow the podcast (@techwontsaveus) and host Paris Marx (@parismarx) on Twitter, and support the show on Patreon.

The podcast is produced by Eric Wickham and part of the Harbinger Media Network.

Also mentioned in this episode:

An excerpt from Survival of the Richest was published in The Guardian.
Paris was recently on the Team Human podcast to discuss Road to Nowhere with Douglas.

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