I don't think you can general, you can simplify it at all when using taxi, robo-taxi. You need to pick up and drop off people pretty much where they want to be picked up and dropped off. It's just can be in very complicated areas, right? So I really believe so. On the unit economy, it's really difficult for me now to, to, to,. to comment, right? I just don't have access to that degree of details. But I really like the progress right now in the industry. We had a bit more big, big, big pragmatic and I think we can, we can be out in production a lot sooner.
After visiting Teleo's headquarters, Alex Roy insisted co-founder and CEO Romain Clement come on the show. And our conversation, which covers the highs and lows of the AV industry and Clement's new startup, doesn't disappoint.