Byrne Hobart, creator of the newsletter The Diff and Capital Gains, joins Erik Torenberg to discuss the intricate evolution of media industries. In this conversation, they delve into the comparative success of print and digital media, the economic transformation of the news sector, the disruption in media landscapes and the emerging scenarios in financial journalism.

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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Intro

(00:56) Historical overview of media business

(04:36) Golden age of newspapers

(07:54) Impact of digital transformation

(13:28) Media fortunes and distribution changes

(18:55) Sponsors: Beehiiv and Turpentine

(20:43) Understanding the distribution model

(24:21) Role of AI in media layoffs

(31:35) Economics of investigative journalism

(36:32) Advice and Insights in building a media empire

(44:10) AI media: Opportunities and challenges

(53:09) Changing nature of fame in the algorithmic age

(58:17) Being Not-a-Tech-Company

(01:05:44) Wrap-Up

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