How Uber and Strike Changed the Product Operations Community

When you left stripe to speaking of scaling you said you got to 18 in your one how many people were there when you left. Yeah so that team grew considerably as well and so overall the team which comprised the central group and then embedded as well just kind of talk about them together. That was about 40 plus at the point like just over 40 total but still quite a large team.Yeah definitely a large team that's great. So you've been in product ops now at uber since 2015 then he moved on to stripe you've seen it everywhere I know you talk a lot about product operations to what have you seen change in the product ops community and product ops in general since then.