We grew up thinking our parents know everything. And then little by little, you realize they're just sad, scared, confused monkeys too. We tend to then start asking experts that that's a good thing as long as we keep them in their domain. But the further you go into any of those, every expert is just a sad, scared monkey who's as confused as anybody else. So what's fascinating to me is that can we just acknowledge that and then have these much more loose, open, cooperative, facilitator hierarchies?