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#038 Creative EA Delegation, the Corporation of You, and Personal Leverage with Robert Hayes and Chris Ho of Athena

Smart Friends

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You Can't Be Afraid to Fail, Right?

Bray: Any time i can have him call customer service on my behalf, there is no greater joy in my life than i hate phone trees more than anything else in the world. Bray: It's its stuff that you don't ask for, thatYou don't expect, that happens and surprises you, right? So lake once you have this e, a relationship built, there's that tough period than you get a bond built but then things start to happen that you didn't even ask for,. that you love.

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