#354:Butch Walker-Part 2
Dean Delray's LET THERE BE TALK
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The Importance of Fear in Life
"I didn't make a damn dime till my 30s in music. I just read this guy, he has a thing where you can see like 27 states for like 280 bucks on Amtrak and he's got the whole setup,. And I was like, you know, there's no excuses." "It always comes down to the same thing. People get locked down in that and then their life's over," she says of credit card debt.
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