JJ Kinahan is going to join me with a number of others in talking about the ETF industry which as I say has grown phenomenally last year was an amazing year for newETFs we haven't seen that much this year maybe in this quarter so maybe it's slowing down a little bit. Matt Miller excuse me back at Bloomberg Invest in New York City but I'm live in Orlando at the BNY Mellon purging insight conference and delighted to have back with us Rom Nagapan he's chief information officer at purging here in Orlando. Carol Masseyr, Tim Stenevek from Bloomberg Radio welcome back everybody Bloomberg Business WeekCarol Masseyr love with Matt Mr. Miller loves