The Second Record Comes Out. Sure. Golden Down. Yeah.

"I didn't get in this business to fire people. That's, that's hurtful to me," he says. "So long story short, um, I had to fire a couple of people, you know, and it wasn't any fun." The second record does come out. Golden down came out. And then after the second record comes out, what is there us to say? Are they willing to make another record or they're saying, Hey, we don't like this. We don't like that?"