I got a phone call from Spider Parks in 1983. He said, we got this group special operations association. It's our guys who was formed by Green Barays,. That ran recon. And we had some hatchet force guys that were the platoon company size operations like Mad Dog and Jerry Shriver. They had formed up a few years earlier. I signed up, probably in the Trenton and their reunions were different places. So I never, I didn't bother to go for several years. But Spider and I talked, paid my dues and finally went to, and they started having them in Vegas. Me and Jeff Junkers would drive, go to Vegas, get into the hotel

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