The Universality of Our Human Experience

Timothy Stanley: I want to ask you a few other questions. And one is about propaganda. You grew up with the state's propaganda, of course, in which North Koreans are immersed from a young age. How do we know when we're really onto it that we're getting towards the bedrock and the bottom line of what's really real? Kim Jong Un feels like he knows what to do and he thinks he thinks he knows every answer to everything. He has no idea what he's doing. Most of us have no idea what we are doing. But for us to realize that and being flexible with that.