Getting the Best Value for the Dial

The level of risk discussions and overall activity is really high and impressive. People chuck each other's work. People push back and it's clear that people care. There's obviously a few different vendors helping the product call, especially around risk. How do you negotiate the best value for the dial? And all these service providers, I have to say that they're very early, same way as we are early in the whole DeFi community and what we're doing. So it's still very early.