Rene Wilson: "I want to do it a little differently and I want to figure that out because podcast is a tricky business these days" He says his agent told him, all you need to know about the state of television right now is Sean Penn and Julia Roberts have a TV show on stars. It's hard to get a show on. You have to be Julia Roberts and Sean Penn,. Yeah. Well, we'll keep talking and please, I'll lend my, or maybe Kendall does a great job to your show any day.