I've thought a lot about boundaries over the years, partially for selfish reasons and partially because it shows up in a lot of the work that we do. So I appreciate that when you were spending that time in Antarctica, you mentioned this idea of building a case that respect Trump's harmony. What was behind the scenes that really came and said, hey, look, this is a big deal? Yeah, I can tell you the absolute minute when it came, when I latched onto that one,. It was our get to know you, barbecue. And so I don't recruit my expedition team, which a lot of people are surprised about that, but the way it is. So I just

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