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Conversations with Rachel Held Evans Part 2

The Zeitcast with Jonathan Martin

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The Importance of Growth and Change

I feel like I'll see somebody moves because they are growing and changing and their reward for walking halfway across the street is to get shot in the middle of the street. It's like, what would you have rather them stayed here? Right. You know, like, can we not be happy? When we see somebody make positive movement in their life. Oh, yeah. People will challenge it. Family. If everybody starts cutting off. Yeah. Like real community will force you to not. I do, but the whole thing though about like growth and change, like it just, one of the saddest things for me is that a lot of these people have moved heaven and earth away.

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