i cannot distinguish wilderness from wildness. We just call it something else. Y wena, i mentioned earlier that, you know, i'd spent a lot of time in the outdoors and particularly in the wilderness. So i want to ask you, what does wildness mean to you? Ah, the natural state means, from our viewpoint, that hasn't been cultivated and tamed. But i guess wildness also means out of control, like running wild, being a wild man.