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"I think we do sometimes as believers, and obviously I've been guilty of this over the years where you feel like you have to convince people through argument," he says. "Sometimes we need to be relaxed about our faith ... If there is a God, he is the God of history, he's the God of science,. There's no such thing as any other kind of God." He adds: "We can kind of relax and say, let's have fun uncovering whatever is true".