There was a moment earlier in the war wasn't there where Lavrov was talking about some kind of peace without woman and it wasn't. It felt like there was some interest in the Ukrainian administration in talking with him about that but then western powers said don't go down that road we need to have That's actually that's actually not true, he says. "It's all a kind of a basically a Russian trolling and you know kind of basically disinformation campaign" Russia is expanding again so we've got a real dilemma we've got an impasse here," Mr Putin adds.