You started off diving into engineering because like you said, you had that very rational side of thinking. And then you went to the arts and that led you down that question of like, how are they memorizing this incredible amount of stuff? And I think that we should dive like straight into that because of how prominent that question is in a lot of the things you've created. So what do you think? Can you give us like a bit of a story of maybe what you discovered along that path for how they were memorizing the incredible amount of information? Right. The easiest way to start is with the Greek memory palaces. But so indigenous knowledge has used the same things except much more

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