i'm curious to understand a little bit is i think a lot of designers don't actually know what's valuable and what's not valuable in terms of building design. A prototype is worth a hundred meetings, but when you walk people through an end to end experience for an objective that you have to change something at the business, it's like a hot knife through the butter of ureaucracy. Is another thing i've been trying to push for at adobe is recognizing that our customers are not just living in a product like photo shop. They have an end toan experience across our pro so how do we really take that into account?

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