Ooh Aah, Up Which Ra?
Free State with Joe Brolly and Dion Fanning
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The Importance of Keeping Pressure Off Yourself
"I used to, in the glory days, I just called the glory days. The glamorous brunette calls me Donald Trump," he says. "They're trying to get them to actually underthink it by thinking about it in a way that they actually don't think about." He adds: 'That's the kind of the trick, isn't it? To get creative space where you don't Think about it'
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