The Mystery of UFOs

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I think it's valuable to appreciate the mystery and not deny the mystery. But what I don't want is people taking advantage of the public and making money out of folklore. For now, the past 60 years, we were not able to raise money from the government. No grants. People don't want to be associated with that because they confuse the two. And as the director of the Carl Sagan Center, I am just very happy to see now that there is a course correction in the government seeking scientific investigators for these kinds of issues.

Nathalie Cabrol is an astrobiologist at the SETI Institute, directing the Carl Sagan Center for the Study of Life in the Universe. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:
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(00:00) – Introduction
(06:47) – Working in extreme environments
(11:26) – Water and life on Mars
(19:31) – Origin of life
(37:00) – Complexity
(40:37) – AI
(49:23) – Extinction
(57:06) – Fermi Paradox
(1:10:48) – SETI research
(1:13:39) – Diving in volcanic lakes
(1:32:57) – Surviving an earthquake on a volcano
(1:43:37) – Resilience of life
(1:51:31) – Life below the surface of Mars
(2:00:26) – Depression
(2:04:08) – Mortality