Recommendation two is really about re-emphasising the need to take correct assumptions about how you need to deal with crowds in relationship to your overall strategic position. We need to move away from the idea that crowds or football fans are inherently disorderly towards the idea that your role and responsibility is to facilitate the peaceful assembly of people who want to come and express their identity and enjoy this carnival of football. Neil: I think it's relevant to talk about a very revealing interview we had with the deputy mayor of the local air on disemore whether uh where the Liverpool fan park was. He couldn't get his head around why it was fenced in they felt it turned it into a