Argenics takes biomaterials from other mammals that are similar, but have differentiated characteristics to what we have in our own immune system. They can create therapies leveraging kind of the unique nature of those antibodies and then they're starting them to humans. In 2008, the founders had an idea they've created massive business and commercial operation around it. It's a hard journey for any biocentric company, especially in the European context. Being a biotech startup in Europe is really, very difficult.

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