i like a bit of wholesome qolicy guidance. But i think when once we get people cured from crazy business, they're much better managers. It's toned kindef to have that continuous conversation. I'm always curious by how my clients can spend so much time in really rubbish meetings which they shouldn't be in. Our manufacturing colleagues would never get everybody to down tools at the same time because it's such an expensive investment of time. That's a very long answer, isn't it? And there is no reason for that meeting to be a brain storm or decisions to be made on top of each other. So if it's just a celebration rather than a discussion or a decision