One that is where the instructor can be flexible. You know, I think we get that rigidity starting early on where we think, okay, I have all these goals I want to accomplish and objectives associated with those. And you know, we want to, we think that successful means accomplishing all of those and checking those boxes, but really it's letting go of that rigidity and being flexible, adapting to the students. That's why I always say student centered, not teacher directed, how your student like work more at their pace. And also, I'm a big believer in also surveying your students. This is something that we do often and even in my role in different capacities, you know, ask the students what they want. When we think about even, you know, how does the world operate in terms of, you know, commercial commerce, et cetera, we're always asking, what does the customer want? We have to think about it that way too. What are some of the areas that the students want to focus on? Because if you can motivate them by what it is that they're interested in, you're more likely to have successful lessons because they're invested in what it is that they're most interested in, right? So that can help drive instruction and help drive once again your scope and sequence and being able to adapt to that.

Perfect. And what about those who are wanting to teach English but, you know, are not sure how to approach it? What would be one tip you would give

them? I always say like just observe, you know, there's always something you're interested in, observe, like ask someone, reach out to even a community program if you can or if there's someone you know in an academic setting that you're interested in, reach out, observe, and see what that's really like to get a taste of it to see if it's a good fit. And, you know, like I said earlier, it doesn't always mean going into a graduate program and getting your master's degree in applied linguistics. It might mean, you know, first start out, you know, start doing some online teaching, see how that goes. You can do it on a one-on-one basis, do it for this. There's so many opportunities. You can do it one-on-one. You can do it in a group. There's so many opportunities. There's so many settings you can be in. Just figure out what's right for you. See what others are doing. Form a community. That's what I think is really important too. This is even an example here of just, you know, finding out about something new and what are people doing out there? Stay current and stay connected.

100% true. Exactly. Dipping your toes in the water and, you know, just starting with the experiment, experiencing it is just the best teacher of all, I guess. Thank you so much, Manuela, for sharing your unique insights on how to promote equitable practices for the students. I personally learned a lot. Thank you so much for your time. Thank

you, Emma. Thank you both so much. Really appreciate it. Nice to meet you both. Good luck with the podcast and I'll be continuing to tune in. Thank

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