I want a healthcare system that keeps people well and so re-organises its resources. That is not a conversation we're having in this country right now because there's so much pressure on what we're trying to do. I think the big society is a bit like that term fat free, it's never what you think. How can we really use artificial intelligence, big data, renewable energy to act and use these resources,. These technologies to tackle problems? It basically comes down to many different sectors in the economy are going to have to be involved in that.

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