Alison: Are you always caught in like the meta loop? Do you feel like you're floating over the room watching yourself? Matt: I absolutely agree and I actually describe it just like you did, that to become a better communicator, you have to be engaged in it. Alison: If you were to capture the best communication advice you have ever received is a five to seven word presentation slide title what would it be?Matt: One thing that sticks with me, this is from a professional matchmaker named Rachel Greenwald,. She uses this catchphrase, "Be more interested than interesting"

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