The Secret Power Structure of the Vatican

Do you think there's a deep state within the Vatican itself and if the risk runs it? Yeah, I think the key to understanding that would be this time period when what we call P2 or organized crime was able to essentially have the highest level cardinals and archbishops. The same model of secret government is the same model that's used in Gladio in Italy. It usually ties into secret societies and intelligence networks, as you know.