I was doing angel investing on the side. Yeah, I didn't just, I was like retire in the sense of like go and sit on the beach, but we're tiring the way that I'm retired. And so then Curie starts to be, you're going to go retire and the infamous Tom Rodriguez comes and says, hey, I've got this idea. That's what could have been in this 50% podcast, 50% investing. It was going to be a career VC, which is what was that four hours a week? The last year of flat iron was during COVID.

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