John Defterios had a trematic experienced probably 25 years ago, but then after and after that, you've got better. Then he's had 15 years of fairly substantial pain in the front of the hip. And then also almost that long of a pain that was in the low back, essi joint area,. That ends, sometimes worse, and sometimes better. Sometimes it bothers you standing and sometimes. And the standing is a more with in the front, with the hip. Is the pillows underneathelo? So so then we talked a fair bitnd, and i generally try to get a sense of the trajectory, what's whats happened. I gave you vetem

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