
Matt Smith: Rethinking College with “The Preparation”
The James Altucher Show
Intro
This chapter explores the necessity of traditional college education versus alternative approaches as discussed in 'The Preparation.' It emphasizes personal growth and self-discovery as key components for shaping the future of young individuals.
A Note from James
There’s always been debate about whether college is worth it. But what if there’s a better alternative—one that actually prepares you to become the person you want to be? My good friend Matt Smith just wrote a book with Doug Casey called The Preparation. It’s not theory—he’s been putting his own son through it as a real-world experiment. Instead of college, Maxim has spent the past two years learning skills like EMT training, firefighting, building houses, working cattle, and even launching a business. This is a practical roadmap for turning those years of 18–22 into a hero’s journey. I loved this conversation, and I’m sending the book to all of my kids.
Episode Description
James talks with entrepreneur and writer Matt Smith about his new book The Preparation, co-authored with Doug Casey. The book lays out a four-year alternative to college built around “cycles”—three-month intensive experiences designed to build practical skills, personal codes, and real-world wisdom. From earning an EMT license to fighting wildfires, training in Muay Thai, or running a small business, these cycles are designed to help young people become independent, capable, and resilient. James and Matt discuss why the traditional college path often fails, how to build a personal code of values, and why the future belongs to “expert generalists” who know how to learn across disciplines.
What You’ll Learn
- Why “be, do, have” is a more powerful framework for life than chasing possessions or credentials.
- How creating a personal code builds self-respect and identity.
- Why intergenerational relationships matter more than peer validation.
- How cycles of hands-on learning—from EMT work to entrepreneurship—prepare young people better than a classroom ever could.
- Why becoming an expert generalist is the best hedge against a future dominated by AI and automation.
Timestamped Chapters
- [00:00] A Note from James: College vs. alternatives
- [01:00] Introducing Matt Smith and The Preparation
- [03:00] Origins of the book and Doug Casey’s vision
- [05:00] Writing the book for his son Maxim
- [06:00] Why homeschooling replaced high school
- [07:00] “Be, Do, Have” explained
- [09:00] Stacking cycles vs. stacking skills
- [10:00] Why the book focuses on young men (and how women can adapt it)
- [11:00] How to build your own cycle
- [13:00] Why traditional education fails to prepare people for real skills
- [14:00] Establishing a personal code
- [16:00] Examples of personal rules for self-respect
- [18:00] Practicing courage and choosing virtues
- [20:00] Skills Maxim has gained so far—EMT, chess, horses, firefighting
- [22:00] Adventures with Doug Casey and small-country nation building
- [24:00] Maxim’s cycles: EMT work, ranch apprenticeship, wildfire EMT
- [27:00] Structure, resistance, and learning by doing
- [28:00] Shelter Institute and learning to build a house
- [29:00] Entrepreneurship cycle: precision agriculture with drones
- [31:00] Lessons from entrepreneurship
- [32:00] Muay Thai training in Thailand
- [33:00] Cooking school in Florence
- [34:00] Travel with purpose vs. aimless wandering
- [36:00] James on biographies and meaningful decisions
- [37:00] Preparing for AI and the future of work
- [39:00] Why being an “expert generalist” matters
- [41:00] Learning how to learn across environments
- [42:00] The problem with peer-only education
- [44:00] Intergenerational relationships as mentorship
- [45:00] What comes after the preparation
- [47:00] Why the program can work for adults too
- [49:00] Rethinking retirement as another cycle of preparation
- [56:00] Matt’s personal growth through writing and learning new skills
- [58:00] Designing The Preparation as a beautiful, interactive book
- [59:00] Closing thoughts and sending the book to the next generation
Additional Resources
- Matt Smith & Doug Casey — The Preparation
- Doug Casey’s Take (Podcast): YouTube Channel
- Doug Casey’s Official Site: internationalman.com
- The Shelter Institute (Learn to Build a House): shelterinstitute.com
- Muay Thai Training in Thailand (Example School): Santai Muay Thai Gym
- Florence Cooking School Example: Apicius International School of Hospitality
- Stripe Press (Books mentioned by Matt): stripe.press
- Doug Casey’s Classic Book — Crisis Investing: Amazon
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